Tough conversations12/27/2023 ![]() What we’re hearing from you is that it’s difficult to be curious about this election because we’re so blue, we’re so Democratic-leaning here in the county. We had asked the readers of the newsletter that I founded, The Evergrey, after the election, “Hey, one of the values of this community we’re gathering is curiosity. It’s toward the north by the Columbia River, and it’s almost entirely agricultural, very, very small, fewer than 2,000 people. Sherman County is one of the smaller counties in the state of Oregon. I believe it was 76% that went for Clinton in King County, 76% went for Trump in Sherman County. GUZMÁN: We took this trip to Sherman County because we had found out, via an interactive map that we had stumbled on online, that Sherman County was the nearest county to King County that had voted exactly opposite in the 2016 presidential election. Why did you go there, and what did you learn? ![]() In your book, you talk about how in 2016, right after the election, you and your fellow residents of King County in Washington state took a trip to visit residents of Sherman County in Oregon. Thank you so much for joining us, Mónica. She’s a former columnist at The Seattle Times and a recent fellow at Harvard’s Neiman Foundation for Journalism and the Henry M. She’s also co-founder of The Evergrey newsletter. She’s also the author of “ I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times ,” which is the subject of our conversation today. She is a senior fellow for public practice at Braver Angels. Oregon voters in the 2016 presidential election, the extent of polarization in America, the role of journalism and social media in our divided society, and much more.īENJAMIN KLUTSEY: Today we have with us Mónica Guzmán. In this installment of a series on liberalism, Benjamin Klutsey, the director of the Program on Pluralism and Civil Exchange at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, talks with Mónica Guzmán, a senior fellow for public practice at Braver Angels, about Washington vs. ![]() Image Credit: Marcellus Laroon the Younger (English, 1679-1772), “The Dinner Party”/Wikimedia Commons Disagreements over dinner: The key is to approach them with real curiosity.
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